可靠的测量全球加热从卫星会如何?- 江南体育网页版- - - - -地球科学堆江南电子竞技平台栈交换 最近30从www.hoelymoley.com 2023 - 07 - 10 - t03:14:59z //www.hoelymoley.com/feeds/question/18442 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf //www.hoelymoley.com/q/18442 1 可靠的测量全球加热从卫星会如何? polcott //www.hoelymoley.com/users/17970 2019 - 11 - 11 - t16:42:04z 2019 - 11 - 15 - t09:12:26z < p >一些人为全球加热(啊)怀疑论者否认全球加热发生。我找到了一种方法,可以用来反驳他们。加权平均的所有热点在地上可以每天计算。这些热点得到的热图像。< / p > < p >这些观点将卫星决议分开。这将提供一个全球供暖的实际测量。我们可以减去城市和火山的影响通过简单地忽略每一个价值超过一定阈值。这种阈值的一个例子的所有点的平均值。< / p > < p >这是一个合理的方式双重检查全球气温异常的趋势?< / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/18442/-/18443 # 18443 4 回答的啤酒. .chenski可靠测量全球加热从卫星会如何呢? 啤酒. . chenski //www.hoelymoley.com/users/6584 2019 - 11 - 12 - t00:17:19z 2019 - 11 - 12 - t00:17:19z < p >你似乎混淆几件事情在你的问题。< / p >

First, AGH skeptics don't deny "climate change". They don't even deny that anthropogenic activity does have some impact on thermal balance of Earth. They just don't think this impact has any significance, since the same climate scientists already have established that CO2 was 10-fold higher in the Earth past, and no water-amplified "runaway" effects (aka "feedbacks") have lead to any terrible effects to life on Earth. It short, there was no "point of no return", historically speaking.

Second, you confuse "global change in average surface temperature" with "global heating". Since the Earth is round and suffers very different insolation levels (equatorial areas are hot and radiate back quite a lot, polar areas are cold and emit much less, all in proportion to 4-th degree of absolute temperature in accord with Stefan-Boltzmann law), it is easy to construct simple examples when lower "average temperature" leads to higher thermal emission, and higher average temperature leads to lower emission to outer space. In other words, there is no correlation between "average surface temperature" of the globe with global "radiative imbalance" (aka "global heating").

Therefore obtaining thermal images from distance might show ANY type of correlation with statistical averages of surface temperatures. And I don't even mention technical difficulties related to long-term stability and calibration of remote sensors, and with necessity to get these observations for at least 100 years to see any effect. And as I noted above, the effect can be anything and prove nothing.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/18442/-/18456 # 18456 5 gerrit回答的可靠测量全球加热从卫星会如何? gerrit //www.hoelymoley.com/users/6 2019 - 11 - 14 - t14:08:50z 2019 - 11 - 15 - t09:12:26z < p >测量卫星的长期温度趋势是可能的,但困难由于各种各样的原因。< / p > < p >这是正在进行的研究。< / p >

In short: the satellites that have been around long enough were built for measuring weather, not climate, and the standards to which instruments need to be built to measure one are entirely different from the other.

We have had satellite measurements of the atmosphere since the 1960s, and operationally since the late 1970s. Those have always included infrared radiometer measurements, which means that, in principle, we can construct a record of surface (both land and sea) and atmospheric temperatures for the past 40 years at least. The sensors themselves aren't very complicated — but to determine a trend we would need to be very confident about their uncertainty, stability, and inter-satellite variability.

If you were to simply take 40 years of HIRS infrared measurements and plot them, you don't know if the changes are due to atmospheric or instrumental changes.

From 2015 to 2019, I was part of the FIDUCEO project which aimed to bring the science of metrology (science of measurement) to satellite observations. Taking 40 years of AVHRR (for sea surface temperature) or HIRS (for atmospheric temperature and humidity) measurements, with 16 different editions of the instrument over a period of 40 years. But AVHRR was built to look at pictures of clouds. If you look at pictures of clouds, the user doesn't care if one satellite has its pictures 0.5% brighter than the previous one. They just tweak their monitor a bit! But if you take the global climate system, then that corresponds to more than 1K temperature difference, which for the oceans, would be huge. In FIDUCEO, we aimed to:

  • Develop a metrology of Earth Observation
  • Produce Fundamental Climate Data Records (FCDRs) for various operational meteorological instruments in visible, infrared, and microwave, meaning:
    • Per-datum metrologically traceable uncertainty characterisation;
    • Per-datum information on correlation structures: which component of the error estimate cancels out when averaging and which component remains;
    • Harmonisation between the various satellite sensors.

Here are 40 years of HIRS (versions 2, 3, and 4), on which we tried to do some harmonisation. The top panel shows global average brightness temperature per 24-hour period, as measured by channel 2 which IIRC peaks somewhere in the stratosphere, so this would correspond roughly to an atmospheric temperature somewhere up in the stratosphere (which, incidentally, is cooling as the Earth's surface is warming):

40 years of HIRS

The different colours indicate different satellites. As you can see, there are both jumps between satellites, and trends within one satellite. Some of this is expected, as polar-orbiting sun-synchronous satellites have a drifting local equator crossing time, but some of it is due to instrumental problems. Some of those problems are captured by the structured uncertainty in the bottom panel, but not all of it. The data only go back to the mid-1980s, because before that, there weren't enough overlaps to constrain the differences between subsequent pairs of satellites based on simultaneous nadir overpasses (SNOs). For satellites in the early 1980s and late 1970s, the coefficients to calibration the thermometres measuring the temperature of the on-board calibration target appear to have been lost. For the earliest satellites the header data does not match available documentation. Software to produce this figure is on Github, raw source data are available from NOAA CLASS, some processed data from FIDUCEO.

This is for a global average. To do this regionally would add additional complications.

The CLARREO programme is proposed to be the first in-orbit SI reference for accurate calibration. Had we had that for the past 40 years, our job would be easier. But CLARREO is still waiting for funding.

So the answer to your question is: with what we have now — not good enough — yet.

But if you are contemplating a career in satellite techno-archeology, I recommend it. It's great fun.

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