科里奥利力在堆栈大气/海洋建模-地球科学交流江南电子竞技平台江南体育网页版 最近30从www.hoelymoley.com 2023 - 07 - 09 - t04:03:51z //www.hoelymoley.com/feeds/question/2561 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf //www.hoelymoley.com/q/2561 5 科里奥利力在大气/海洋建模 tom98765x //www.hoelymoley.com/users/0 2014 - 10 - 01 - t09:12:48z 2014 - 10 - 03 - t15:06:07z < p >科里奥利力并不是一个真正的力量,但根据参考系统和它是如何引用一个惯性系统。这科里奥利力广泛应用于大气/气候建模取而代之的是显式的力量如太阳引力,这给相同的结果吗? < / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/2561/-/2562 # 2562 6 答案由沃尔夫冈Bangerth科里奥利力在大气/海洋建模 沃尔夫冈Bangerth //www.hoelymoley.com/users/5259 2014 - 10 - 01 - t10:49:02z 2014 - 10 - 01 - t10:49:02z < p >如果你的问题是:我有一个方程以武力术语F (x, t),美元和假设F (x, t)是美元造成的影响,然后将方程的解决方案一样,如果力F (x, t)美元B已经造成的影响,那么答案当然是“是的”。(即相同的力。,大小相等,方向相同)总是会引起同样的反应系统,无论这种力量是从哪里来的。< / p > < p >当然,科里奥利力有非常特殊的形式,你会很难找到其他物理效应将导致一个力词有相同的形式。< / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/2561/-/2563 # 2563 7 答案由科里奥利力的arkaia大气/海洋建模 arkaia //www.hoelymoley.com/users/111 2014 - 10 - 01 - t20:42:08z 2014 - 10 - 01 - t20:42:08z < p >科里奥利加速度仅出现在一个旋转参考系与地球一样。科里奥利效应是由地球自转引起的惯性质量体验的效果。如果你在一个惯性参照系,从而加速,将没有科里奥利效应。< / p > < p >让我们假设你能够建模的地球运动的参照系的太阳系模型集中在太阳(假设它是加速),那么就没有需要包括科里奥利效应。< / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/2561/-/2564 # 2564 10 回答大卫Hammen科里奥利力在大气/海洋建模 大卫Hammen //www.hoelymoley.com/users/239 2014 - 10 - 01 - t23:23:43z 2014 - 10 - 03 - t15:06:07z < p >这是你们的选择关于建模的气氛。没有很多,只有其中的一个是有意义的。李> < / p > < ol > < < p >大气模型从一个惯性参照系的角度。< br >祝你好运!作为一个顾问告诉我几十年前,“名字!”It's certainly not an Earth-centered frame; the Earth is orbiting the Sun. It's certainly not Sun-centered frame; the Sun is orbiting Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. It's certainly not the solar system barycenter (center of mass); the solar system is orbiting the Milky Way. The Milky Way barycenter? Nope. The Milky Way and the Andromeda galaxy are accelerating toward one another. No matter how far afield we look, we see gravity (and even further afield, metric expansion of space) that hides this inertial frame from us.

  • Use a non-rotating frame centered at the solar system barycenter.
    The International Celestial Reference Frame is one such frame. This is more or less a constructible frame. Here we either ignore or account for the acceleration toward the center of the Milky Way, the Andromeda galaxy, and stuff further afield. It does makes sense to ignore those extraneous accelerations; they are very, very tiny, and the variation across the solar system is tinier yet. There's another issue with any such construction. The ICRF almost certainly is rotating. The predecessor of the ICRF, the J2000 frame: Scientists now know it was rotating. The same goes for the predecessor of the J2000 frame, the B1950 frame. In fact, scientists know the ICRF is rotating. The ICRF has been upgraded to ICRF version 2.0. And that too is rotating. Scientists just don't know how much.

  • Use a non-rotating frame centered at the Earth's center of mass (aka Earth-centered inertial).
    Even if the ICRF was perfect, there is no way one can reasonably model the Earth's atmosphere in a computer program from the perspective of such a frame. The length and velocity scales needed to properly model the atmosphere and the length and velocity scales using a solar system barycenter frame just don't match. Oil and water. Even worse, it's a Sesame Street moment! ("One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong.")
    The thing that doesn't belong is the solar system barycenter. The only reasonable way to model the Earth's atmosphere is to use an Earth-centered perspective. Now a computer program is starting to have a chance to represent the atmosphere, and do so in a way that is computationally feasible. An Earth-centered frame is accelerating, but we can handle that. We can pretend that $\vec F=m \vec a$ still applies. This result in fictitious tidal accelerations. It's not a problem. Physics still works.

  • Use an Earth-centered, Earth-fixed reference frame.
    A problem remains with the Earth-centered inertial frame described in option #3. The Earth, the atmosphere, and the oceans are rotating, and at different rates. This means that "starting to have a chance" was a bit overoptimistic. It makes much, much more sense to use a frame that rotates with the Earth. This adds even more fictitious forces, the centrifugal and Coriolis forces, but once again, that's not a problem. In fact, this simplifies things to the point where meteorologists do finally have a chance to represent the atmosphere in a way that is computationally feasible.

  • Option #4, the one that requires fictitious third body forces (aka tidal forces), fictitious centrifugal forces, and fictitious Coriolis forces, is the only option that makes a bit of sense from the perspective of modeling the atmosphere.

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