如何自然标本,如“Moqui弹珠”,区别于人为的工件吗?- 江南体育网页版- - - - -地球科学堆江南电子竞技平台栈交换 最近30从www.hoelymoley.com 2023 - 07 - 10 - t21:27:03z //www.hoelymoley.com/feeds/question/6889 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf //www.hoelymoley.com/q/6889 1 如何自然标本,如“Moqui弹珠”,区别于人为的工件吗? user5434678 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/4617 2015 - 11 - 10 - t01:14:21z 2019 - 08 - 29 - t11:50:08z < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/y2COW.jpg " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/y2COW.jpg " alt = "在这里输入图像描述" > < / > < / p > < p >如果找到特定类型的岩石标本在地球和完全是由天然矿物质,但个体标本每分钟从另一个不同大小和形状和制造的情报看,科学有结论只是一块石头,因为从地球矿物成分完全是吗?还是因为这些样本也发现在火星上吗?如果只有地球,将科学说他们是文物从过去的文明?< / p > < p >这里的照片< a href = " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navajo_Sandstone # Iron_oxide_concretions”rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > Moqui大理石< / >从地球,火星上和类似的结构。我持有一些空洞和一些吃饱了。他们甚至有一个负极相互影响,好像有意保持距离下一个。< / p > < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/1FmPy.gif " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/1FmPy.gif " alt = "在这里输入图像描述" > < / > < / p > < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/3Nxet.jpg " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/3Nxet.jpg " alt = "在这里输入图像描述" > < / > < / p > < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/CI1zr.jpg " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/CI1zr.jpg " alt = " Moqui-Marbles犹他州" > < / > < / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/6889/-/6890 # 6890 6 Gimelist回答的是如何自然标本,如“Moqui弹珠”,区别于人为的工件吗? Gimelist //www.hoelymoley.com/users/725 2015 - 11 - 10 - t02:42:22z 2015 - 11 - 10 - t02:42:22z < p >还不完全清楚你想问什么,但我会在。< / p > < blockquote > < p >如果地球科学认为只有他们从过去的文明有文物?< / p > < /引用> < p >“科学”的唯一途径会说有文物从过去的文明如果有证据支持这一点。这不是某种默认的科学度假村当它无法解释的东西。这也是UFOists像:你看到光在天空中,你不能解释它,所以它必须是一个外星飞船。没有,它只意味着你不知道它是什么。美丽总结的meme: < / p > < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/9NSRx.jpg " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/9NSRx.jpg " alt = "在这里输入图像描述" > < / > < / p > < p >回到主题。< / p > < blockquote > < p >科学有结论只是一块石头,因为从地球矿物成分完全是吗?还是因为这些标本是科学发现火星上也因此不得不说,自然。< / p > < /引用> < p >一个常见misconeption是岩石在地球上的任何不同的岩石在火星或月球。这实际上是错误的——这些行星,第一近似值,来自同一个地球是由时间组成的。 Basalt (and I'm being extremely sensu lato on this). There's nothing magical or mystical or alien about basalt. And you know what - because Earth is such a complex planet with tectonics and surface processes and everything there are much more interesting stuff on Earth then elsewhere (in my humble opinion).

If a specimen of rocks are found through out earth entirely of natural minerals but are different minutely from another in size and shape but look to be manufactured by intelligence.

Never underestimate the power of nature! Particularly when dealing with rocks and minerals. I know - I'm a scientist whose job is to make this stuff in a lab. Some natural rocks and minerals are extremely difficult to make.

How science identifies rocks?

It's also pretty easy to distinguish natural specimens from artificial ones. We scientists don't just look at rocks, we use a bunch of multi-million-dollar instrumentation to study them. When using those instruments distinguishing natural from artificial samples becomes as easy as distinguishing an elephant from a mouse.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/6889/-/6896 # 6896 7 回答的桥是如何自然标本,如“Moqui弹珠”,区别于人为的工件吗? //www.hoelymoley.com/users/94 2015 - 11 - 10 - t17:51:43z 2015 - 11 - 15 - t18:00:25z < p >像迈克尔,我发现你的问题有点不清楚,但似乎是问题的症结所在:< / p > < blockquote > < p >…科学有结论(一个标本)只是一块石头,因为从地球矿物成分完全是吗?< / p > < /引用> < p >答案是一个强势的<强> < /强>。有很多non-rocks,他们中的许多人(所谓)制造的情报被称为< em >智人< / em >。当然是没有规则的地质,你必须考虑这种可能性排除在识别岩石时,无论它的成分。毕竟,我们完全有能力生产文物从地球矿物质。事实上,当确定一个标本,你< em > < / em >考虑的可能性,它是一个产品的情报:许多热情的业余最终收集的砖,瓦砾,盐碱地,工业渣等等未能这样做:-)。< / p > < p >你的问题你提到的一个因素是产权< / p > < blockquote > < p >看被情报生产< / p > < /引用> < p >,事实证明,通常是一个有用的诊断比你所想的那样。大量生产标本看起来不特别制造,特别是在侵蚀和风化。相反地,大量的自然发生的对象看起来非常普通的和复杂的。< / p > < p > < a href = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/WAdvM.jpg " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/WAdvM.jpg " alt = "渣和黄铁矿" > < / > < / p > < p >在左边,对象由情报(< a href = " http://elementsunearthed.com/2013/06/03/tintic-soil-study-part-2-collection-trip-to-knight-smelter-and-silver-city/ " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " >渣从骑士冶炼厂在犹他州< / >)。在右边,一种天然的标本< a href = " http://www.cfm-minerals.it/Italy_pages/Tuscany_ElbaIsland_Riomarina.htm " rel = " nofollow noreferrer " >从厄尔巴岛十二面体的黄铁矿,意大利< / >。 So a subjective, purely visual judgement that something ‘looks manufactured’ or ‘doesn't look manufactured’ can be very misleading.

Your question also asks specifically about the ‘Moqui marbles’ of the Navajo Sandstone:

If Earth only had them would science say they are ancient artifacts from a past civilization?

The answer here is, again, a firm no. This is easy to check because, of course, the ‘Moqui marbles’ had been observed long before Opportunity landed on Mars in 2004, and at that time scientists did not regard them as ancient artifacts from a past civilization. For example, Chan et al. (2000) described them like this:

Small concretions of secondary iron oxide deposits are exclusively hematite-cemented sandstone. These concretions form all kinds of shapes from millimeters to centimeters in diameter, and cut across primary bedding structure. Some concretions are solid spherical balls around unknown nuclei; others are spherical rinds with plain red-stained, host rock interiors (lacking black-colored hematite cement on the inside). Concretions also exhibit forms that appear to have coalesced or joined (similar to two glued marbles), or exhibit a variety of other odd shapes (buttons, disks, irregular knobby forms to spiked-looking balls).

As you see, the authors identify these objects as concretions. (Also note that, although you claim that they're only "minutely" different in size and shape, the description here mentions a great deal of variation in both those properties.) Concretion is an extensively studied geological phenomenon which occurs across the globe. There’s no need to invoke an ‘intelligent manufacturer’ to explain it, whether or not concretions are found on other planets.


Chan, M. A., Parry, W. T., & Bowman, J. R. (2000). Diagenetic hematite and manganese oxides and fault-related fluid flow in Jurassic sandstones, southeastern Utah. AAPG bulletin, 84(9), 1281-1310.

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