地震预测是可能的吗?- 江南体育网页版- - - - -地球科学堆江南电子竞技平台栈交换 最近30从www.hoelymoley.com 2023 - 08 - 13 - t19:57:18z //www.hoelymoley.com/feeds/question/878 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf //www.hoelymoley.com/q/878 32 地震预测是可能的吗? 猎鹿人 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/269 2014 - 05 - 11 - t03:14:19z 2020 - 05 - 05 - t16:07:22z < p >东北和东部沿海地震后,我越过几本书讨论地震预测的有效性作为一门学科,但没有发现重大的突破。应该及时改变我们的方法和模型,使预测减少伤亡?< / p >

To be clearer, I am not interested in general assessment of seismic hazards (i.e. magnitude distribution for the next 25-50 years), but rather in short-term forecasts precise enough to order evacuation. I am aware that evacuation is a contentious issue...

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/907 # 907 7 答案由马克Rovetta地震预测是可能的吗? 马克Rovetta //www.hoelymoley.com/users/178 2014 - 05 - 12 - t17:24:59z 2014 - 05 - 13 - t17:02:45z < p >尽管完美的预测下一场地震何时何地发生(这是公众如何解释术语“预测”)不是身体上是不可能的,这需要比我们目前的更多信息。可能在未来我们可以有足够的地震机制的理解,和实时前体的知识,实际预测下一场地震至少目前尽可能精确地预测下一个大洪水或风暴。< / p > < p >社会的利益更好的评估和减轻地震灾害而不是预测地震。精确的预测地震可能会比的准确评估地震灾害的那么有用,如果目标是减少生命和财产的损失。< / p > < p >这样的问题可以改善这一决定是否你询问地震风险或地震的物理机制。如果是后者,你需要更具体的假设你问什么。< / p >

In fact, the basic physical mechanism responsible for earthquakes is understood to be elastic rebound . It's really the details of that mechanism that are still the subject of study.

If you are asking whether it will be possible, in the future, to forecast earthquakes sufficiently well to justify the evacuation of a major city, I would say yes. However, that is also going to depend upon municipal emergency evacuation capacity.

The prediction of an earthquake has consequences in and of itself, and seismologists have been: Sent to Jail for Being Too Flippant.

If I had to guess where the future breakthroughs in seismology leading to better earthquake forecasting will come from - I would guess real-time remote sensing of crustal deformation from space platforms. This will produce large amounts of data about fault-zones, in real-time and computer-accessible format, that can be interpreted in terms of our present understanding of earthquake physics.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/910 # 910 18 回答通过Neo地震预测是可能的吗? Neo //www.hoelymoley.com/users/32 2014 - 05 - 12 - t19:04:08z 2014 - 05 - 12 - t19:04:08z < p >你问我们应该改变更好地预测地震,我认为几乎所有的东西。作为地球物理学家,我们可能知道<强> < / >强的地震爆炸,但相对盲目的<强> < /强>。有一种强烈的科学家们觉得单一事件的预测是<强> < /强>一个现实的目标,和也许是不可能的。< / p > < p >一些好的猜测为什么这仍然是一个问题:< / p > < ul > <李>地球物理学家仍然不完全理解< a href = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic-rebound_theory " > < / >弹性回跳理论,作为我们的地震模拟需要假设并不符合经典的模型。李李< / > < >方程管理地震是绝对< a href = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_system " >非线性< / >,和数学技术,可能描述地震运动和火山喷发可能甚至还不存在。这种情况下的一个例子是< a href = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knot_theory " > < / >和DNA结理论,很难在数学上表示DNA结构直到纽结理论是(它仍然可能是困难的,但是至少有数学)。李李< / > < >板块构造理论,整体地震的原因,还没有完全完成,和它的映射和表征地幔流不理解。李李< / > < >建模的影响,地震各向异性< a href = " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_anisotropy " > < / >,尤其是晶格择优取向,不理解。最值得注意的是,它在地幔楔动力学中的作用。< /李> < / ul > < p >,但这些只是猜测,实际上,这是所有。在黑暗中射击。

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/921 # 921 14 地震预测狮子座Uieda回答的可能? 狮子座Uieda //www.hoelymoley.com/users/137 2014 - 05 - 14 - t03:53:04z 2014 - 05 - 14 - t03:53:04z < p >除了@Neo谈到的理论局限,也有一个伟大的数据差异在我们的知识。预测地震,我们需要知道:< / p > < ul > <李>所有主要的3 d几何,并可能小,断层带李< / > <李>岩石圈应力的分布,至少接近断层但可能更李< / > <李>在断层岩石的物理特性(摩擦、脆性等)< /李> < / ul > < p >上面的我们的知识是有限的,在最好的。为了准确地预测地震我们不仅需要更好的方程,而且<强> < /强>更多的数据。< / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/973 # 973 21 回答的地震预测的地球物理学家可能? 的地球物理学家 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/507 2014 - 05 - 21 - t12:19:44z 2014 - 05 - 22 - t13:04:54z < p >地震预测是一个有争议的问题,尤其是在< a href = " http://www.dramsch.net/archives/75-The-lAquila-trial-Getting-the-big-picture.html " rel = " noreferrer " > < / > l 'Aqula试验。然而,让我试着精致的预测将来可能和抑制这种发展。< / p > < p >我们确实有一些了解地震和断裂机制。然而,对于预测的规模小时疏散(足够的),我们必须考虑以下。地壳中应力场基本上是应用地震所需的压力。然而,这些都是难以衡量和不同的压力可能适用于同一地区(本地、地区全球应力场)。看看世界地图压力,如何混乱的不同影响。< / p >

Stress

World stress map

These stresses are also pretty difficult to measure. These methods include (Source World Stress Map):

  • Earthquake focal mechanisms
  • Well bore breakouts and drilling-induced fractures
  • In-situ stress measurements (overcoring, hydraulic fracturing, borehole slotter)
  • Young geologic data (from fault-slip analysis and volcanic vent alignments)

These may sometimes give contradictory stress tensors. One of these reasons is that in-situ measurements are often more localized than focal mechanisms (as an example). But when we look at the map, we do have a lot of data (27.000 data points). Here another big problem comes into play:

Material

While geophysicists like to assume that the ground is homogeneous, it really isn't. A rupture may occur when the material at a fault fails under pressure. Yet the material is highly diverse and includes cracks and fractures that make it virtually impossible to make an accurate assessment. The material may act elastic, ductile or brittle and that may be location-dependent. From this you cannot say if a small rupture triggers a larger earthquake due to stress transfer or if it stays a small earthquake.

What would be to improve

This would make a simulation highly chaotic and the prediction would have a high probability to be false positive or false negative, therefore, decreasing the reliability significantly.

In the end we would have to improve our understanding of:

  • Stress fields
  • Stress-Strain relations
  • Rupture mechanisms
  • Material science and location

Early Warning in California

Nevertheless, an earthquake early warning (EEW) system is being implemented in California (and tested). It's called CISN ShakeAlert. They can use the trick that so-called P-waves of earthquakes are faster (and less destructive) than surface waves. This can give valuable time to safety-relevant systems like nuclear plants or high speed trains. But this is in a very early stage, when an earthquake already happened and is bound to arrive somewhere.

(I would have loved to put down more links, but my rep is too low, so see Wikipedia for Rupture Mechanics, Stress-Strain relations, the World Stress Map website and the CISN ShakeAlert website.)

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/981 # 981 6 地震预测HungryDB回答的可能? HungryDB //www.hoelymoley.com/users/504 2014 - 05 - 22 - t09:19:23z 2014 - 05 - 22 - t14:30:06z < p >虽然我们尚未产生可靠的科学方法提前预测地震的发生,坊间证据表明,动物能感觉到地震前发生。< a href = " http://www.gps.caltech.edu/ jkirschvink / pdf / earthquakeprediction.pdf”rel = " noreferrer " > Kirschvink(2000) < / >表明动物的“第六感”是一个进化机制创造了“seismic-escape反应”。虽然可能有些动物可能捡小电磁场波动或前震,几乎没有研究来证实这一点。然而,有研究进展,如< a href = " http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2014/02/seismology " rel = " noreferrer " >动物研究国际合作使用空间< / >可能有助于证实一些索赔。< a href = " http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201205/can-dogs-predict-earthquakes " rel = " noreferrer " > Stanley Coren < / >和狗进行了一些发人深省的研究可能预测能力。< / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/982 # 982 8 地震预测Inkenbrandt回答的可能? Inkenbrandt //www.hoelymoley.com/users/510 2014 - 05 - 22 - t12:50:02z 2014 - 05 - 22 - t12:50:02z < p > 2014年春季,俄克拉何马州地质调查局和美国地质调查局生成一份新闻稿(www.okgeosurvey1.gov /媒体/新闻/ Full_USGS-OGS_Statment_05022014.pdf)增加了地震活动在俄克拉荷马州的警告。调查地质学家观察到地震的发生和大小的增加,可能与发生的增加向地下注入废水虽然有些工人这一增长归功于< a href = " http://wichita.ogs.ou.edu/documents/OGS_IS16.pdf " rel = " noreferrer " > < / >湖水平的变化。< / p > < p >在这种情况下,地质学家发出警告潜在的地震活动增加基于当前观察地震的震级和发生趋势。这个警告假定任何因素导致这个地震活动将继续(和潜在的增加)。< / p > < p > < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/t3LDF.gif " alt = "增长3.0级和更大的地震发生时间”> < img src = " https://i.stack.imgur.com/jwKmN.jpg " alt =“地震活动随时间在俄克拉何马州一直在增加”> < / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/2983 # 2983 9 答案由stali地震预测是可能的吗? stali //www.hoelymoley.com/users/1275 2014 - 12 - 07 - t21:28:18z 2014 - 12 - 07 - t21:57:42z < p >看到它相对容易预测可能发生大地震,假设你已经监测变形的时间足够长时间,或多或少等于平均inter-seismic间隔(decades-centuries)。< / p > < p >原则上地震很简单,即故障累积应变,然后最终/破裂。百万美元问题是触发它,至今为止没有一个可靠的前兆。< / p >

It is like predicting failure of a wooden (e.g., balsa) stick by bending the two sides with your hands, i.e., you know it will break more or less somewhere near the center, where the strain is highest (assuming homogeneity in properties and geometry) but getting the timing right is significantly harder and very difficult to reproduce. It is even harder in case of earthquakes, given the heterogeneity, non-linearity in the system.

So with time it will get easier to predict location of large earthquakes, as we monitor strain accumulation using modern tools like GPS, InSAR etc., but getting the timing right to even within a few years will be much harder. For example, we know that Southern San Andreas is due to for an earthquake (just based on the amount of slip deficit) as the last major earthquake was in 1857. But will this earthquake occur, today, in five years or within next 50 years, is unknown. Having said that additional faults in SoCal (e.g., San Jacinto and Elsinore) make the situation even more complex. Same goes for the North Anatolian fault near Istanbul, i.e., we know that an earthquake will occur there soon, as the entire plate boundary except the part near Istanbul had ruptured at least once in the last hundred years. See here for more details.

But getting the timing right for short term forecasts right now (and IMHO even in the next few decades) is impossible. Your only hope is alarms based on P-wave arrivals but then the earthquake has already started and heading towards you. Note: P waves arrive faster than surface waves, which cause most of the destruction so you might have a few seconds (depending on how far you are from the hypocenter) to take cover, automatically shutdown crucial stuff like gas flow in underground pipelines, subways, power plants etc.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/878/-/4325 # 4325 9 地震预测user889回答的可能? user889 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/0 2015 - 01 - 24 t22:57:42z 2015 - 01 - 26 t09:00:34z < p >一种地震预报的方法,正在积极研究放射性氡同位素异常在地震前表面。< / p >

According to the article Radon as an Earthquake Precursor – Methods for Detecting Anomalies (Gregorič et al.), the radon isotope $\ce{^222Rn}$ originates from the radioactive decay of $\ce{^226Ra}$ as part of the $\ce{^238U}$ decay chain that occurs naturally in varying degrees in the Earth's crust. Due to the relatively short half-life of the $\ce{^222Rn}$ isotope.

Gregorič et al. explains that the altered stress-strain dynamics before an earthquake alters the transport of "geogas", which consists of carrier volatiles (e.g. $\ce{CO2}$, $\ce{CH4}$) and rarer gases within (including $\ce{Rn}$) via grounwater (liquid-phase advection), gas flow through cracks and fissures (gas-phase advection), or by quick 'bubble flow' via being carried on buoyant 'bubbles' through aquifers and water filled fractures.

Of course, this method is highly dependent on he amount of the amount of the radiogenic source already present, and factors such as soil grain size and meteorological parameters (e.g. soil moisture, rainfall, air pressure and temperature) can affect the concentrations of $\ce{^222Rn}$ at the surface, research is ongoing to determine the seismic source vs meteorological sources of radon emissions.

Observations presented in the paper Radon Monitoring in Soil Gas and Ground Water for Earthquake Prediction Studies in North West Himalayas, India (Singh et al. 2010) found some correlation between surface measurements of radon and he occurrences of earthquakes, but confirmed that these were significantly affected by meteorological events and also stated that monitoring of other carrier (and rare) gases is required to potentially more accurately predict an earthquake.

In a very recent paper, Detecting precursory patterns to enhance earthquake prediction in Chile (Florido et al. 2015) also state that in Chile, one of the recognised precursors are radon gas fluctuations occurring in the soil, groundwater and air.

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