是犹太和现在一样沙漠化2000年前吗?- 江南体育网页版- - - - -地球科学堆江南电子竞技平台栈交换 最近30从www.hoelymoley.com 2023 - 04 - 11 - t15:16:47z //www.hoelymoley.com/feeds/question/9361 https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/rdf //www.hoelymoley.com/q/9361 20. 是犹太和现在一样沙漠化2000年前吗? 泰勒歌顿 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/2491 2016 - 12 - 27 - t22:38:23z 2016 - 12 - 28 - t13:38:43z < p >的古老堡垒< a href = " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masada " rel = " noreferrer " >马察达< / >目前干燥和禁止,所以很难想象有人住在那里。周边地区的气候更湿2000年前,还是尽可能多的沙漠现在? < / p > //www.hoelymoley.com/questions/9361/was -朱迪亚-沙漠化- 2000年-前- -它是now/9362 # 9362 28 戈登斯坦格回答的是犹太和现在一样沙漠化2000年前吗? 戈登斯坦格 //www.hoelymoley.com/users/4507 2016 - 12 - 28 - t00:45:35z 2016 - 12 - 28 - t03:09:40z < p >一直有一种强烈的南北降水梯度约戈兰高地(高降雨量),通过犹太和南方干旱西奈沙漠。我们知道这个梯度曾经有更高的降雨,因为有丰富的降雨收获和地下水收集结构,建造的纳巴泰语可不是构想出来的文明约公元前400年至公元100年。他们现在长已经因为气候干燥,但与边际干旱地区栽培的特点。类似的结构现在可以发现在阿曼工作,伊朗和北非部分地区。所以它是合理的推断出该地区曾经是明显湿润。< / p >

In addition to this overarching climatic gradient there is a very strong local rainfall gradient from the Israeli Highlands in the west, about 1100 mm, to the Dead Sea-Rift Valley in the east which receives about 100 mm per year. This is a rain shadow effect from the prevailing Mediterranean airflow to further east into the Arabian desert - obvious from the vegetation density on Google Earth. Masada currently receives about 200 mm per year, but it is very erratic, with huge inter-annual variability. One study of the Negev and adjacent dry areas concluded that the spotty distribution of annual rainfall doesn't average out - at least, not on any time-scale useful to humans. Because of its position in an intense rain-shadow, Masada will always have been dry.

There are two potential sources of water supply to places like Masada; springs, and ephemeral (very unreliable) flash floods. The springs are groundwater which has percolated through the limestone massif from the Israeli highlands around Jerusalem,. Hebron, etc. There are currently no springs in the immediate vicinity of Masada. There may once have been a spring under higher water-table conditions, but none that we know of historically.

The solution used to supply Masada was to build two dams in canyons draining the Israeli highlands. Ephemeral flash floods were thereby intercepted and conveyed by gravity-drained aqueducts to tanks dug deep inside the Masada citadel. These tanks were of about 30 to 35 cubic metres capacity, so even allowing for evaporative and seepage losses in the aqueduct, the water supply could be topped up - provided the frequency of flash flood was sufficient. Even today it is likely that flash-floods would have been of adequate frequency. Under the slightly wetter regime of 2000 years ago, it is near certain that there would have been more than sufficient water every year.

Unfortunately, there are no rainfall records from so far back, but some interesting general climatic inferences may be found in Issar A.S. (1990), 'Water Shall Flow from the Rock'.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/9361/was -朱迪亚-沙漠化- 2000年-前- -它是now/9364 # 9364 6 kingledion回答的是犹太和现在一样沙漠化2000年前吗? kingledion //www.hoelymoley.com/users/6703 2016 - 12 - 28 - t02:46:17z 2016 - 12 - 28 - t13:28:43z < p >戈登斯坦格覆盖在气候方面他的答案,但是我想插话的答案“是沙漠和现在一样多?”< / p >

While I'm not aware of any archaeological evidence for the agriculture in the land surrounding Masada at the time of the siege, there are several factors that may have, at that time, made the area less 'deserty.'

There are two in particular I want to mention. The first are qanats. This technology spread from Persia around ~500 BC and quite impressive ones were built by the Romans in dry places, like this one from modern day Jordan.

Masada is in a cliff overlooking the Dead Sea, but the top of the fortress is only about 60 meters above sea level; the surrounding land is much lower. This puts it in a good position to receive water from nearby groundwater at higher elevation. As can be seen in Google Maps, The land rises 200m in 2.5 km to the West, and 400m in about 5.5 km. Google Maps even indicate the course of several wadis that flow in the general direction of Masada which could be used as the basis for a partially underground irrigation system.

Qanats take a lot of work to build and maintain, but in a land where there is cheap labor and little water, it can be worth it to build them. The Middle East at the time had plenty of desert adapted trees that could thrive with a little irrigation (almonds, olive, carob, date, pistachio; all mentioned in the Bible), so it is entirely possible that there were groves of desert trees in the land around Masada.

This brings us to the second point: tree cover. The tree cover currently existing in the area around Masada (i.e. none) doesn't have to be the tree cover that was always there. Trees being rare in the southern Levant, they were always under pressure for use as firewood, and their regrowth was limited by grazing, especially by goats.

There are several trees (large shrubs really) that can grow in such hot and dry conditions, as they are present in the rest of the Negev desert in Israel, such as Acacia, Pistachia, and Tamarix. Acacia in particular may be a keystone species, such that higher, ancient levels of tree cover could have encouraged a generally greener landscape.

In conclusion, while the area around Masada is barren now, it does not have to have been 2000 years ago. There were labor intensive irrigation techniques and tree crops available to make successful farming a possibility, and lower firewood and grazing pressure from a lower population may have allowed the wilderness areas to have been greener than they are today.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/9361/was -朱迪亚-沙漠化- 2000年-前- -它是now/9365 # 9365 11 Gimelist回答的是犹太和现在一样沙漠化2000年前吗? Gimelist //www.hoelymoley.com/users/725 2016 - 12 - 28 - t07:08:33z 2016 - 12 - 28 - t07:08:33z < p > tldr:它也干,这就是为什么人有反政府武装,而不是富人精英。< / p > <人力资源> < p >我想添加一些指向戈登的回答。< / p >

First of all, Masada is on the western edge of the Judea Desert, and therefore it is dry now and was extremely dry back then. The water supply to it was based on abundant water reservoirs that were built in and around Masada to trap flood water. Here is one (source):

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It doesn't rain a lot there, but once it rains, it rains a lot in a very short time. Being a native of the Negev Desert, I know this very well. They just had to trap all of the water, and then you have lots of water for long enough.

Now, you are asking:

The ancient fortress of Masada is currently so dry and forbidding that is hard to imagine anyone living there.

This is exactly the reason it exists. Masada wasn't a holiday town for the rich, and people didn't think of it as a particularly good place to live. Even the nearby modern town of Arad is considered as a very remote and unwelcoming place to live in by most Israelis. Masada was a place where outcasts, outlaws and rebels lived. The people living there during the famous Roman siege were not the mainstream Jews living in most of Judea at that time. They were considered outlaws even by the Jewish administration in Jerusalem and elsewhere.

The dryness and remoteness of the area was an asset: no one even wanted to hunt them down over there. That is, unless you get someone really pissed off (such as the Roman Empire) and they decide to end it in the famous siege. The dryness was also helping the defenders: they had access to the water reservoirs while the attackers did not.

//www.hoelymoley.com/questions/9361/was -朱迪亚-沙漠化- 2000年-前- -它是now/9366 # 9366 1 回答,直接督导下的Casapu犹太是沙漠化2000年前,现在呢? 直接督导下Casapu //www.hoelymoley.com/users/7214 2016 - 12 - 28 - t13:38:43z 2016 - 12 - 28 - t13:38:43z < p >他们发现羊皮卷轴和date-seeds(其中一个是germintated !)从2000年前在朱迪亚沙漠,表明气候非常干燥的在这段时间内,允许他们被保留下来。< / p >
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